Please provide some concrete examples of people who exhibit this "Woke Right" syndrome. I am totally ignorant of any examples of behavior that would justify this curious obsession. Your concern seems to be analogous to the Joint Chiefs' politically driven campaign to identify white supremists in the services in the early years of what is called the "Biden" years. After two years of witch hunts the only concrete result of this campaign was to leave the services short of volunteers.
Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson, C Jay Engel, Benny Johnson, Chris Rufo (openly admits to being a fan of Gramscian analysis), Nick Fuentes, Stephen Wolfe, Michael Wolfe, Charles Haygood.
There are more. Essentially the Woke Right is the Right Hand of the Left. They use a critical consciousness framework to view the world, and they have "woke up" to the "reality" that there is a global system of power conspiring to keep the true knowers (them, the "true right" or "new right" or "dissident right" etc) out of power, and so they have to upturn society and institutions in order to gain back control of these institutions so they can enact their ideal plan for society (which only they know because they have woken up).
The Woke Right uses the same Victim/Oppressor framework the Left does, but the Woke Right insert themselves as the victims and they call the oppressor "liberal society" or the "post war liberal consensus".
The Woke Right also are very fast to arrive at "The Jews", where as the Left gets there but with a few extra steps. The Woke Left hates Jews because they are independent and "capitalists" and the Woke Right hates Jews because they view the Jews as communists (somehow they're both?). Furthermore, many on the Right are Christian anti-semites (those lines of thought are 2000+ years old. Goes back to Roman Empire, the origin of Christianity).
Both the woke Right and woke Left have a disdain for American society. A decent portion of the woke right is amplified by social media bot farms, and there is a lot of grifting and astroturfing too. I think its not as popular as people who are online think it is, but it certainly is growing. I have seen woke-right Jew hatred and arguments all over random places on the internet, where the topic at hand isnt even close to being related to this stuff. Gaming videos, cooking videos, chess videos, articles etc.
You gotta watch his earlier podcast on the Woke Right where he explains that in detail. But to give you my own and oversimplified understanding, it's basically guys who claim to be conservatives and/or Christians and/or MAGA but who are more extreme than the average follower because they discovered some kind of hidden truth "the elites" want to keep from us yada yada yada. And then they use that BS to take control over the entire movement or at least steer it in a certain direction that makes it appear more extreme and then the entire movement can be steered away from its original goals and/or be cracked down upon by the opposition. In my humble opinion, Elon is actually the most famous person like that, but that's just my opinion.
You give them too much credit. There are a group of elites in the world, and they do have a lot of power, this is true. But believing such a statement does not make you woke right.
Who is in this group of elites? What do they have in common? Are they coordinated or do the various sects operate independently?
I think a lot of people mistake the right's inaction for left wing effectiveness. The left has only been effective because the right stood by a did nothing.
Your exhaustive analysis of a "Woke Right" is provocative. I find your deconstruction of "Woke Leftism" and its roots in Critical Theory, along with the mechanics of "elitist capture," to be largely congruent with my own observations of that particular societal poison and the perennial tactics of power.
My core question, however, hinges on the assertion that this "Woke Right" is a direct ideological twin, employing the exact same "critical consciousness" operating system derived from the Frankfurt School, merely with different actors and aims. While you meticulously show the Left's self-professed adherence to this framework, the case for the Right appears to be more an interpretation of their actions through this lens, by analogy.
To be fully convinced of this direct ideological symmetry, rather than a different strain of authoritarian reaction that might mimic certain outcomes or tactics, I would seek more explicit evidence. Are there foundational "Woke Right" texts or prominent figures who overtly articulate their adoption of a "critical consciousness" (or its equivalent) as their primary tool for societal deconstruction and revolutionary re-ordering, explicitly mirroring that specific intellectual lineage? If such direct evidence exists, perhaps in other writings I've not yet encountered, it would be crucial to solidifying your claim of an identical underlying "operating system."
There are many within the Woke Right camp that openly praise Marx, Gramsci, Hegel and other influential Communists. Critical Consciousness (Wokeism) is fundamentally a Gnostic belief system. When you understand this, it becomes very easy to identify who on the right follows this same belief system, but with victim/oppressor reversed. The "Just asking questions" gang (which are actually leading statements) is famous for this. They claim to have secret knowledge to how the world work's and only they understand it, so you have to follow them and give them power.
Meanwhile it is fairly clear that much of this activity is astroturfed or not genuine. There have been more than a few Woke Right figures that seemingly come out of nowhere. Remember Candace, for instance, was very far to left before she made vague conservative overtones. She is now back to being on the left, via the Woke Right, which can be accurately summarized as "The right hand of the left."
I suspect the woke right consist of people who crave power, and they are woke because their awareness is fueled by their understanding that the bulk of people on the right, aka voting citizens, are more focused on living normal lives as opposed to trying to control others. They don't have the time or inclination to keep up with daily current events.
A good example is the Jan 6 event in the DC Capitol. Most of the "insurrectionist" were anything but. They were trusting, concerned citizens who wanted their voices heard. They didn't behave like the left's woke insurrectionist who violently took control of Wisconsin's Capitol in 2011. The Jan 6 insurrectionist were, for the most part, quite orderly, staying within the tour ropes.
The woke right crowd counts on the trusting souls to let them erect the tour ropes, and many on the right will remain compliant because they want to be good citizens; after the Republicans are the good guys, aren't they? They can't bring themselves to accept the fact their leftist family and friends are, at their core, quite evil.
There is quite a bit of cynicism I think you are correct. "And so the dialectic progresses" seems to be the obvious observation here. The Left creates both the action and the reaction, so they can control it. This was Lenin's vanguard bolshevism model. The Woke Right is a reactionary movement to the woke left, even though they are basically spouting the same ideas. This is how the left creates its own opposition in order to control it. The woke right claims to be in total opposition to the woke right, but either way the left will utilize the power they help to consolidate via controlled opposition. So the left creates this dialectic and some new more powerful institution or government is created because of their opposition, and then they take it over and control it. The whole point of them creating the action, and the reactionary opposition is so they can move the spiral of history in their desired direction. And so the dialectic progresses.
I am not an American and don't know jack about MAGA. That said, I listened to the whole podcast and it all sounded very, very, very familiar to me. Because that's precisely the tactic that socialists use to get rid of ALL their perceived enemies (so not just MAGA).
They attack and slander it from the outside with overwhelming (and even physical) force. Which is already VERY effective - but it's just brute force. The problem with that is that it makes the socialists look like the bad guys. So even if they managed to suppress that one opposing movement that way, other opposing movements will immediately pop up.
That's why socialists ALWAYS combine direct attacks with infiltration tactics. They get their spies and useful idiots and otherwise compromised actors to go inside the movement where at first they will blend in until they are seen as completely legit parts of the movement or even as its backbone.
Then in sync with the direct outside attacks, their "sleepers" inside of the movement will "wake up" (get it, their "woke" now ;-) and just act insanely extreme. And even if other people in the movement oppose them, because they are all seen as part of the same movement, that then just splits the movement and fractures it into many factions that are busy fighting each other.
The openly socialist attackers on the outside will then use that to make the whole movement look like it's all composed of crazy lunatics and dangerous extremists and then they will swoop in and crush the whole thing in record time without much resistance and most importantly without making the socialists look like the bullies even if they now openly use overwhelming physical force and open violence against their political enemies.
Quite the contrary, it will make the socialists look like good guys and their enemies like crazy dangerous extremists.
I'm only about 5 minutes in, but just as a general comment, everybody has a worldview, whether they recognize that or not. Everyone has a way they view the world.
Please provide some concrete examples of people who exhibit this "Woke Right" syndrome. I am totally ignorant of any examples of behavior that would justify this curious obsession. Your concern seems to be analogous to the Joint Chiefs' politically driven campaign to identify white supremists in the services in the early years of what is called the "Biden" years. After two years of witch hunts the only concrete result of this campaign was to leave the services short of volunteers.
Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson, C Jay Engel, Benny Johnson, Chris Rufo (openly admits to being a fan of Gramscian analysis), Nick Fuentes, Stephen Wolfe, Michael Wolfe, Charles Haygood.
There are more. Essentially the Woke Right is the Right Hand of the Left. They use a critical consciousness framework to view the world, and they have "woke up" to the "reality" that there is a global system of power conspiring to keep the true knowers (them, the "true right" or "new right" or "dissident right" etc) out of power, and so they have to upturn society and institutions in order to gain back control of these institutions so they can enact their ideal plan for society (which only they know because they have woken up).
The Woke Right uses the same Victim/Oppressor framework the Left does, but the Woke Right insert themselves as the victims and they call the oppressor "liberal society" or the "post war liberal consensus".
The Woke Right also are very fast to arrive at "The Jews", where as the Left gets there but with a few extra steps. The Woke Left hates Jews because they are independent and "capitalists" and the Woke Right hates Jews because they view the Jews as communists (somehow they're both?). Furthermore, many on the Right are Christian anti-semites (those lines of thought are 2000+ years old. Goes back to Roman Empire, the origin of Christianity).
Both the woke Right and woke Left have a disdain for American society. A decent portion of the woke right is amplified by social media bot farms, and there is a lot of grifting and astroturfing too. I think its not as popular as people who are online think it is, but it certainly is growing. I have seen woke-right Jew hatred and arguments all over random places on the internet, where the topic at hand isnt even close to being related to this stuff. Gaming videos, cooking videos, chess videos, articles etc.
You gotta watch his earlier podcast on the Woke Right where he explains that in detail. But to give you my own and oversimplified understanding, it's basically guys who claim to be conservatives and/or Christians and/or MAGA but who are more extreme than the average follower because they discovered some kind of hidden truth "the elites" want to keep from us yada yada yada. And then they use that BS to take control over the entire movement or at least steer it in a certain direction that makes it appear more extreme and then the entire movement can be steered away from its original goals and/or be cracked down upon by the opposition. In my humble opinion, Elon is actually the most famous person like that, but that's just my opinion.
So I guess I’m woke right, because I do believe that a powerful group of elite entities control pretty much everything.
You give them too much credit. There are a group of elites in the world, and they do have a lot of power, this is true. But believing such a statement does not make you woke right.
Who is in this group of elites? What do they have in common? Are they coordinated or do the various sects operate independently?
I think a lot of people mistake the right's inaction for left wing effectiveness. The left has only been effective because the right stood by a did nothing.
Your exhaustive analysis of a "Woke Right" is provocative. I find your deconstruction of "Woke Leftism" and its roots in Critical Theory, along with the mechanics of "elitist capture," to be largely congruent with my own observations of that particular societal poison and the perennial tactics of power.
My core question, however, hinges on the assertion that this "Woke Right" is a direct ideological twin, employing the exact same "critical consciousness" operating system derived from the Frankfurt School, merely with different actors and aims. While you meticulously show the Left's self-professed adherence to this framework, the case for the Right appears to be more an interpretation of their actions through this lens, by analogy.
To be fully convinced of this direct ideological symmetry, rather than a different strain of authoritarian reaction that might mimic certain outcomes or tactics, I would seek more explicit evidence. Are there foundational "Woke Right" texts or prominent figures who overtly articulate their adoption of a "critical consciousness" (or its equivalent) as their primary tool for societal deconstruction and revolutionary re-ordering, explicitly mirroring that specific intellectual lineage? If such direct evidence exists, perhaps in other writings I've not yet encountered, it would be crucial to solidifying your claim of an identical underlying "operating system."
There are many within the Woke Right camp that openly praise Marx, Gramsci, Hegel and other influential Communists. Critical Consciousness (Wokeism) is fundamentally a Gnostic belief system. When you understand this, it becomes very easy to identify who on the right follows this same belief system, but with victim/oppressor reversed. The "Just asking questions" gang (which are actually leading statements) is famous for this. They claim to have secret knowledge to how the world work's and only they understand it, so you have to follow them and give them power.
Meanwhile it is fairly clear that much of this activity is astroturfed or not genuine. There have been more than a few Woke Right figures that seemingly come out of nowhere. Remember Candace, for instance, was very far to left before she made vague conservative overtones. She is now back to being on the left, via the Woke Right, which can be accurately summarized as "The right hand of the left."
I suspect the woke right consist of people who crave power, and they are woke because their awareness is fueled by their understanding that the bulk of people on the right, aka voting citizens, are more focused on living normal lives as opposed to trying to control others. They don't have the time or inclination to keep up with daily current events.
A good example is the Jan 6 event in the DC Capitol. Most of the "insurrectionist" were anything but. They were trusting, concerned citizens who wanted their voices heard. They didn't behave like the left's woke insurrectionist who violently took control of Wisconsin's Capitol in 2011. The Jan 6 insurrectionist were, for the most part, quite orderly, staying within the tour ropes.
The woke right crowd counts on the trusting souls to let them erect the tour ropes, and many on the right will remain compliant because they want to be good citizens; after the Republicans are the good guys, aren't they? They can't bring themselves to accept the fact their leftist family and friends are, at their core, quite evil.
There is quite a bit of cynicism I think you are correct. "And so the dialectic progresses" seems to be the obvious observation here. The Left creates both the action and the reaction, so they can control it. This was Lenin's vanguard bolshevism model. The Woke Right is a reactionary movement to the woke left, even though they are basically spouting the same ideas. This is how the left creates its own opposition in order to control it. The woke right claims to be in total opposition to the woke right, but either way the left will utilize the power they help to consolidate via controlled opposition. So the left creates this dialectic and some new more powerful institution or government is created because of their opposition, and then they take it over and control it. The whole point of them creating the action, and the reactionary opposition is so they can move the spiral of history in their desired direction. And so the dialectic progresses.
I am not an American and don't know jack about MAGA. That said, I listened to the whole podcast and it all sounded very, very, very familiar to me. Because that's precisely the tactic that socialists use to get rid of ALL their perceived enemies (so not just MAGA).
They attack and slander it from the outside with overwhelming (and even physical) force. Which is already VERY effective - but it's just brute force. The problem with that is that it makes the socialists look like the bad guys. So even if they managed to suppress that one opposing movement that way, other opposing movements will immediately pop up.
That's why socialists ALWAYS combine direct attacks with infiltration tactics. They get their spies and useful idiots and otherwise compromised actors to go inside the movement where at first they will blend in until they are seen as completely legit parts of the movement or even as its backbone.
Then in sync with the direct outside attacks, their "sleepers" inside of the movement will "wake up" (get it, their "woke" now ;-) and just act insanely extreme. And even if other people in the movement oppose them, because they are all seen as part of the same movement, that then just splits the movement and fractures it into many factions that are busy fighting each other.
The openly socialist attackers on the outside will then use that to make the whole movement look like it's all composed of crazy lunatics and dangerous extremists and then they will swoop in and crush the whole thing in record time without much resistance and most importantly without making the socialists look like the bullies even if they now openly use overwhelming physical force and open violence against their political enemies.
Quite the contrary, it will make the socialists look like good guys and their enemies like crazy dangerous extremists.
I'm only about 5 minutes in, but just as a general comment, everybody has a worldview, whether they recognize that or not. Everyone has a way they view the world.
This connects with this ... 🤠
https://open.substack.com/pub/americafirstnews/p/dc-debrief?r=982y8&utm_medium=ios
Troll or Gaslighter?
Kayfabe "heel" or "face?"
Leverage public fear of ______ and blow up the regulatory framework to attract funding for ________.
"Its one big club and we arent in it."
- George Carlin.